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I was wondering if anyone had a wiring diagram for the CL360 I am in the process of switching handle bars to race ones and I took records of what everything was but I would like to have the diagram. Any Help is a big thanks

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Not to be a dick but how hard is it to match color to color (this is assuming your stock wires have not been sliced)?

Please tell me you didn't make the newbie mistake of disconnecting both controls at the same time and ending up with a rats nest of disconnected wires that you have to now figure out what goes where. For future reference do one side, take the old handlebars off and leave them dangeling by the other control and hook up the disconnected control to the new handlebars. That way you only have 4 or 5 disconnected wires to deal with instead of 8 or 10. Then once you have the one side sorted then do the otherside. Rather than take records, get some masking tape and a magic marker. Label both sides of the connectors with numbers (1,2,3, etc..) so it is just a matter of matching the numbers up after (1 to 1, 2 to 2, etc.).

Some hondas have the wiring passing through the handlebars, others have them running on the outside. I don;t remember which the cl360 is but I think they are internal which is the only reason you would need to disconnect the controls in the first place. BTW I don't mean to be so harsh but I can't tell you how many times I have had to go to some kids house with an old honda because it wont run and sort out the rats nest they make out of the wiring by switching handlebars.

Anyway here is your cb360/cl360 wiring diagram. You didn;t specify which year and honda thought it funny to change wiring colors every so often so don't be surprised if some of the colors don't match up.

http://home.tiscali.nl/~gmolhoek/cb360/cb360_wiring.jpg





Edited by - Geeto67 on Jan 18 2006 3:02:16 PM
 

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well what I am doing is that the bars I have dont have the holes for running the wiring through it so I am just going to make a panel by my ignition swith to control the lights and starter. i just looked up that I dont need turn signals to be legal so in an effore to save weight all the wiring for them is going to be removed. Thanks much for the diagram. Ooh yeah my bike is a 75'

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well what I am doing is that the bars I have dont have the holes for running the wiring through it so I am just going to make a panel by my ignition swith to control the lights and starter. i just looked up that I dont need turn signals to be legal so in an effore to save weight all the wiring for them is going to be removed. Thanks much for the diagram. Ooh yeah my bike is a 75'

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oh, ok. if you want to run the controls on the outside of your bars you can just grind a little of the housing away and run the cables outside don the handlebars. Honda did that starting in 1977. You could even find controls that are already on the outside for your bike. I usually just drill a hole in the bars and get a grommet from home depot.

I don't recoment removing your turn signals completely if you plan on riding on the street but a nice set of small ones or LEDs will definatly lighten the bike up and still offer piece of mind. Something out of the way but still visible will help you out a lot in street riding. If you don't have turn signals the law requires you to use handsignals to change lanes which you have probably never seen and neither have the hundred thousand other drivers on the road in your state.

these are tiny but LEDs hence the $50 cost. My friend has them on his R1 and you don't notice them at all but he flicks them on and I can see them from 100 yards back:
http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/product_catalog/Product.jsp?skuId=211382&store=Main&catId=411&productId=p211382&leafCatId=41103&mmyId=

But if you want to go uber cheap I use these on my hondas usually tucked out of sight, they cost me $20 a pair at my local bike shop new and $5 at swapmeets:
http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/product_catalog/Product.jsp?skuId=&store=Main&catId=411&productId=p210269&leafCatId=41103&mmyId=
 

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Thanks for the help with those lights but I now have a even bigger problem. My asshole classmate broke my turn signal slider switch so I guess I am now in the market for a entire left side housing. is there any way I can wire up a peice of sheet metal with 2 push button switches one for left signal one for right?

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Thanks for the help with those lights but I now have a even bigger problem. My asshole classmate broke my turn signal slider switch so I guess I am now in the market for a entire left side housing. is there any way I can wire up a peice of sheet metal with 2 push button switches one for left signal one for right?

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I don't see why not, the only problem is that you will have to take your hands off the bars to activate it which is not very helpful. check ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1974-Honda-CL360-Light-switch-Clutch-perch_W0QQitemZ4605714680QQcategoryZ35594QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda-CB360-CL360-CB-CL-360-G-T-Horn-Dim-Switch-NEW-NOS_W0QQitemZ4605060941QQcategoryZ35587QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
 

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This is all super helpful
I have a 1971 Honda Cb 350 with Xl handlebars
with all the control wiring running inside
and am putting on clubmans with no holes

I took the electric ignition housing off and disconnected the front break cable no prob.
the throttle grip came off like a dream.
the directional housing and clutch cable came off fine
but now I have a bunch of questions

1. I cant seem to get the left grip off
it appears to have some kind of blue sealant on it
do i have to just pry it off with out mangling the rubber?
is it usually just a pressure fitting?

2. since the wires run through the bars and need to be pulled out
I naturally have to disconnect them from inside the headlight
i already have the BIGGEST RATS NEST in there so this is a daunting task
( i am half tempted to take them off from the end of the controls but dont think thats a very good idea)
I have the diagram already but I am not sure how much thats really going to help.
if its really bad should I just get a new harness and start over?
Its like spaghetti and electrical tape on crack

Excellent advice to do one side at a time- thanks

3. Can I just drill holes in the new bars and still run the wires through?


4. there are 2 depressions on the throttle side of the old bars which I am assuming have some function for the throttle to center on or lever off of
can I grind 2 spots that are similar or would that be a nightmare to line up right?
should I get a different kind of throttle that may be straight and not need to rely on these 2 dimples?

Sorry for all the questions
I am a total Newbie and just learning
Obviously!

Thanks for any suggestions

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1. I cant seem to get the left grip off
it appears to have some kind of blue sealant on it
do i have to just pry it off with out mangling the rubber?
is it usually just a pressure fitting?

2. since the wires run through the bars and need to be pulled out
I naturally have to disconnect them from inside the headlight
i already have the BIGGEST RATS NEST in there so this is a daunting task
( i am half tempted to take them off from the end of the controls but dont think thats a very good idea)
I have the diagram already but I am not sure how much thats really going to help.
if its really bad should I just get a new harness and start over?
Its like spaghetti and electrical tape on crack

Excellent advice to do one side at a time- thanks

3. Can I just drill holes in the new bars and still run the wires through?


4. there are 2 depressions on the throttle side of the old bars which I am assuming have some function for the throttle to center on or lever off of
can I grind 2 spots that are similar or would that be a nightmare to line up right?
should I get a different kind of throttle that may be straight and not need to rely on these 2 dimples?
1) When you buy new grips, the instructions say to glue the left one on so it doesn't slide around on you (they usually say glue the right one on to the throttle sleve too). It is normal to see al kinds of stuff holding grips tight. try to work it loose an inch at a time. if you can't get it (like the Previous owner put too much stuff on) you may have to cut your losses and buy a new grip set.

2) rats nests in headlights are a regular occurence, get used to that sight as you continue to work on bikes (most came from the factory that way). It really isn't that hard to straighten it all out and to work with it. The diagram is really to help you if you get lost in the wires or are trying to do custom shit. The most useful thing on that diagram is the wire colors which are kinda hard to read anyway, still it is better than nothing at all.

Go slow, and find the wires that match the colors of the ones coming out of your control switch. Disconect the first one and untangle it from the rats nest. this will help you clean it all up. mark the two wire ends with the masking tape and the sharpie (number them the first connection gets a 1 on both leads, the next a 2 and so on) just in case you get lost in the mess. By the end of the first control you will feel more confident about this and the headlight mess will look a lot cleaner. Remember, when in doubt check the colors, keeping things organized is why the factory made the wires different colors to begin with.

you should not see any electrical tape in your headlight unless you have a broken wire. if you do, then you need to inspect that wire and make sure the connection is good. if you have to resoldier the connection and use shrink tube instead of electrical tape, as it is cleaner.

3) the short answer is yes. The long answer is yes but on clubmans it is a pain in the arse and you need to make sure that the hole is not too big, the hole is deburred, the edges are rounded and you install a gromet. if you were talking about a superbike bend style bar i'd say no problem because a superbike bar has gentle bends and is pretty much a straight shot. clubmans have 90 degree turns and you won;t be able to get the wires to exit the center of the bar no matter what you do. I have a set of clubmans set up for a honda from the factory and the hole for the wires in and the hole for the wires out are an inch apart. since the bars are going to look like the wires are running external anyway you might as well save your self the trouble and just grind a little out of the control housing an run the wires outside. if you are really worried about water getting in there you can seal it with rtv sealer around the wires.

4)you say your cb has xl handlebars, so who is to say those depressions are for your bike? I don;t have much cb350 expirence, but honda does sometimes have a locating pin for the control. the 1979 SS requires you to drill a hole in the bars for it. that being said, I think that your best bet is yo just test fit and see if it moves, if it does then you need the depression, if not then you are good to go. chances are those dimples aren't even for your bike.

keep asking questions, that measn you are doing and doing is the only way you will learn.


Edit: I noticed that you are in NYC, if you want I can come over and walk you through this. I am in Queens and now that I am in the job market have nothing but time to kill.

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There is a lot of tape in there
Too bad I cant post a picture of it to give you all a good laugh
but it sounds like its all too common

Thanks for all the advice
and Geeto67 thanks for the offer to check it out
Ill try my hand first and if I get stuck and/or frustrated ill let you know

My studio- where my bike is- is in Greenpoint right near the Polaski Bridge to LIC
so we are neighbors

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Greenpoint Rocks!
I live by McGorlic Park and the Studio is down at the end of Manhattan Ave
Been here almost 8 yrs
Do you go to see Eric and Sayr at Engineer works? by Matchless Bar
I went there once and they were so nice.
Great to have them in the hood.
 

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Greenpoint Rocks!
I live by McGorlic Park and the Studio is down at the end of Manhattan Ave
Been here almost 8 yrs
Do you go to see Eric and Sayr at Engineer works? by Matchless Bar
I went there once and they were so nice.
Great to have them in the hood.
I'm good friends with Eric and sayer, knew sayer when he worked for team obsolete. They are good guys, don;t forget MotoGP monday nights when the season starts.
 

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Yup! Monday Moto GP night is cool
Went to a few last year
looking forward to it

Rosco you have your own shop?
Do you have a drill press by any chance??
I am going to do the holes on my clubmans to make it neater
even if its going to be hard to route the wires through the bend
i think it will be worth it.

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Lucky You being friends with Eric and Sayr.....
Dang! Do you ride with them too?
i was so relieved to meet them and not have to go up to 95th St to Speed Motorcycles where I went at first (only because someone recommended them)
Then I stopped by Engineer works and could tell right away that it was a much better scene with Eric and Sayr
not to mention that its right in the hood
Eric actually rode my bike to test the front breaks because I guess he used to do drum break racing- and adjusted them for me.
 

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Save yourself a LOT of trouble and just run the wires outside. Just make a nice clean/ burr-free notch (using a dremel or something similar)in the underside of the control housing to run the wires out of. Make sure there are no sharp edges. I can forward you a pic of my 350 so done if I can remember where it is....

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Yup! Monday Moto GP night is cool
Went to a few last year
looking forward to it

Rosco you have your own shop?
Do you have a drill press by any chance??
I am going to do the holes on my clubmans to make it neater
even if its going to be hard to route the wires through the bend
i think it will be worth it.

Geeto
Lucky You being friends with Eric and Sayr.....
Dang! Do you ride with them too?
i was so relieved to meet them and not have to go up to 95th St to Speed Motorcycles where I went at first (only because someone recommended them)
Then I stopped by Engineer works and could tell right away that it was a much better scene with Eric and Sayr
not to mention that its right in the hood
Eric actually rode my bike to test the front breaks because I guess he used to do drum break racing- and adjusted them for me.
Eric used to race for Team Obsolete a while ago, before I met him, which means he raced some serious bikes. I don't ride with anybody much right now since it is cold and nobody wants to ride.

I have a drill press but you would have to come to queens to use it (if not long island), but rosko's correct, you can just notch the controls and run the wires outside (it makes your life tons easier). A drill is kinda the quick and dirty way of slotting the bars, you really want a milling machine which I have access to as well.
 

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Thanks Guys!
I have Dremel tool but its in my storage space on the CApe - Doh!
I can get a grinder bit and use it in my drill though
if I want to do the channel idea
DO you then use those plastic sinch strap things to secure it?
Rosco Yeah Send the pics of how you did it -that would rock

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Thanks Guys!
I have Dremel tool but its in my storage space on the CApe - Doh!
I can get a grinder bit and use it in my drill though
if I want to do the channel idea
DO you then use those plastic sinch strap things to secure it?
Rosco Yeah Send the pics of how you did it -that would rock

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Those plastic cinch straps are called zip ties, it's how the factory did it for decades. I got a set of notched 750 switches on the bench if you want to see them in person. I also got a dremel I could lend to you. Let me know.
 
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