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Bill,

Thanks for posting the old photos! In the last photo, what is the story behind the Honda 305 with what looks like a whizzer tank and a very odd looking seat?

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Bill,

Thanks for posting the old photos! In the last photo, what is the story behind the Honda 305 with what looks like a whizzer tank and a very odd looking seat?

Jack
Well Jack, that s actually a 250 Hawk (looks just like it's big brother the 305 Super Hawk) the gas tank is from a Sears Allstate Moped. Back in the early 60's lots of them were used for racing, in our area. It's small and easy to mount with a single bolt up through the center of the tank. You made a mount piece by taking a bolt (just long enough), drill a hole in a 2" piece of flat metal and weld it to the bolt, use radiator hose clamps the attach it to the frame where it's needed, slip the tank on and bolt it down (with no modification to the tank or the frame. The seat is actually a race item for the Hawk/Super Hawk and I had picked it up because it fit snugly against the tank (kinda flows off of the tank) I stripped the bike down for drag racing and left the seat on it because it turns up at the rear. I wish I had come up with an alternative for racing, but hindsight is always pretty clear. It's the foresight that sometimes gives me some problems. Some time ago, I actually came across one of those gas tanks and have thought of recreating the look for a picture of how it should have looked (with a more appropriate seat).

As for the photos, my pleasure and I have a few more.

Here's my Mom in the Fall of 1944. (she passed on about 6 yes ago) And here's the Indian that my Dad had when he married my Mom. It was their only transportation for a while.




 

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Bill,

That 2nd picture is a pretty rare bike, isn't it? I can't recall ever seeing an Indian with the Guzzi type motor and shaft drive configuation. I know that Harley made a "boxer" engine during ww2 but that indian is new to me.

I will have to do some research.

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Jack, it's called an 841 and was actually built for the military. Then some folks started buying some of them and making them "Civilized" be putting Chief pieces on them.

Later on, Bill :)<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>


Here's a military model.

 

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My boss has two of those Transverse V twin Indians. I let him know I'd be happy to clean up his basement and get them out of there!
Cool old pics Bill and welcome.

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Welcome to the site, Bill!

I could look at those pictures for days!! You should start your own historical thread. I'd never leave my desk.

2005 Ducati Monster 620
1976 Honda CB250 (Cafe)

"It was supposed to make that noise... wasn't it????"
 

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My boss has two of those Transverse V twin Indians. I let him know I'd be happy to clean up his basement and get them out of there!
Cool old pics Bill and welcome.

Jeff
Hey Jeff. Uh, if you get the go ahead on cleaning up your bosses basement, I'd be glad (MORE than glad actually<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>) to help YOU out and I'd take one of those off of YOUR hands so that you wouldn't have to deal with BOTH of them.<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> Thanks for the comments and the welcome too! Good to be here.<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

Later on, Bill :)<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
 

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Welcome to the site, Bill!

I could look at those pictures for days!! You should start your own historical thread. I'd never leave my desk.

2005 Ducati Monster 620
1976 Honda CB250 (Cafe)

"It was supposed to make that noise... wasn't it????"
Thanks Pip. Don't know about starting my own historical thread, I've gotten a few pictures on load from my Dad and will have to return them but I've got them loaded at Flickr. Here's a few more.
#1 My Grandfather on his showroom floor w/ some 47' Indian Chiefs





#2 My Grandfather on the left, by the car and my Dad, next to the last on the opposite end.




#3 My Grandfather, an old friend on the right and I don't know who it is on the left, with their Chiefs.


 

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Welcome. I love the pics. It's good to have someone else around who was raised with Indians. Some of my earliest memories are restoring a '47 Chief with my dad. I love the pictures of them when they were new.
 

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great photos, keep them coming please.

What a great era to live in.
Thanks for the response. I'm going to have to visit my Dad and exchange the pictures I have, for some more. It WAS a pretty cool period of time, just seems SO VERY LONG AGO now. We're never satisfied, I'm always wishing that I'd have been born earlier, so that I could have experienced more! Between my Grandfather not being much of a business man and the fact that the Japanese bikes were arriving on the scene, was probably what caused the business to start downhill. My Grandfather AND my Dad were great mechanics. I've seen folks bring my Grandfather a box with a hub, some spokes and a rim for him to put together and want him to put together a wheel out of it (some of the parts in that box were for something else). He'd pick out the parts that went with the rim and the hub, put it together and, in time, have that wheel as straight as an arrow! He had a lathe and a boring bar that he was fully capable of using also. This, from a man with a 6th grade education! I'd seen him straighten forks and frames without any hydraulic assist. Just a hammer and some wooden blocks.

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Welcome Bill. Your post about the box of parts reminded me of my Grandpa. He was the same way with that kind of stuff. Miss him every day but I am so greatful for the 25 years I had with him.

Thanks again and glad to have you!

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Welcome Bill. Your post about the box of parts reminded me of my Grandpa. He was the same way with that kind of stuff. Miss him every day but I am so greatful for the 25 years I had with him.

Thanks again and glad to have you!

Gas Right, Clutch Left
Thanks for the welcome! Glad I could bring up some good old memories for ya. I had 19 yrs with my Granddad (would heave been 21, but I joined the U.S. Air Force in April of 1966 and actually went in August and he died (Dec 68')while I was stationed at Misawa AFB in Japan and was TDY (doing Temporary Duty) in Korea. They let me come home because he and I were so close. I would have made it home for the funeral but got delayed at San Francisco International Airport. <img src=icon_smile_dissapprove.gif border=0 align=middle> I thought the world of him and had so much to tell him when I was to be back home. Besides missing him, I miss not being able to share what I'd seen and learned while in Japan and Korea. One thing about it, NOBODY can take THOSE memories away!<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

Later on, Bill:)<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
 
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