What's a Q-ship? Your Cb will only do 110mph? Is it stock? I'm 6'2" and weigh 210, and tucked down as far as I can, I've had my '75 going 120mph. All it had at the time was aftermarket pipes and clubmans(and some lightening). It also has over 40,000 miles. I don't know, maybe my speedo's off. Jimmy
cb750
I love building old motorcycles and working on them i have always rode old bikes. The kids at school always make fun of what i ride. They all ride new bikes would it be posible to build a cb750 that could take a r6?
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Oh yeah, I ride the Cb for the same reasons. Mine feels pretty stable at any speed going straight, but going 100mph on that thing around curves feels insane. I know I could spend a few grand (or even get financing) for a mid 90s rocket that would smoke the Cb in every way, except the feeling and the style. I don't want to be just another punk kid on a rocket.
By the way, I have a friend who owns a 73 Rd350, and just spent over $2000 on a 97 Yzf 750. He's gone 150mph on the Yzf, but he's already talking about selling it, because it's too boring and predictable! He said he loved how uncontrollable the Rd was. Before he bought the Yzf I went with him to look at an Rz350 that he almost bought, except it went for slightly more than he bought the Yzf for. I bet he would have liked the Rz better. Jimmy
By the way, I have a friend who owns a 73 Rd350, and just spent over $2000 on a 97 Yzf 750. He's gone 150mph on the Yzf, but he's already talking about selling it, because it's too boring and predictable! He said he loved how uncontrollable the Rd was. Before he bought the Yzf I went with him to look at an Rz350 that he almost bought, except it went for slightly more than he bought the Yzf for. I bet he would have liked the Rz better. Jimmy
i do love going fast on old bikes but i tell you i am ready for a newer commuter....you see i ride over 100 miles a day and pushing 95 miles an hour on a cb 350f is sweet and all but it is so damn cold these days and it takes me about half an hour before i can feel my extremities again.....other then that i hate new sport bikes, anyone want to buy me a KTM elephunt?
Ride Fast and Take Chances
Ride Fast and Take Chances
Best bet is probabaly one of these
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early 70's 2 stroke 750 cc Kawi H2 or a related yamaha TZ. They can get the hp your looking for to keep you in the game, but you would have to do some serious mods for handling. Here is a build page for one that now a flat tracker http://home.san.rr.com/h2hester
early 70's 2 stroke 750 cc Kawi H2 or a related yamaha TZ. They can get the hp your looking for to keep you in the game, but you would have to do some serious mods for handling. Here is a build page for one that now a flat tracker http://home.san.rr.com/h2hester
I think that if you want to be a little competetive with the newer sport bikes, the easiest way might be to move up a generation to the late 70s early 80s to start with. Look at the twin cam Hondas 750, 900, 1100 or the 2 valve Kawasakis or suzukis. They can still cafe out really well and will provide a little better handling and engine performance. I think if you tune for torque and handling you will be able to run with 90% of the punks on new sportikes. E-gay can be your friend on this one as far as better forks and swingarms and wheels and brakes. I am planning and collecting parts for my 82 Seca 550. I am gong to use this as a race bike, but it will probably be streetable too. Or by the time I collect up enough parts for the race bike I will have enough leftovers for a streetbike too.
Ken
AHRMA 412
Vintage racing - old guys on old bikes
Ken
AHRMA 412
Vintage racing - old guys on old bikes
By the way, R.C. Engineering had a 3 engined Honda SOHC 750 based drag bike that they named the Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe. I heard that it is now a coffee table in Russ Collin's house.
Ken
AHRMA 412
Vintage racing - old guys on old bikes
Ken
AHRMA 412
Vintage racing - old guys on old bikes
I have had my bike up to 120, but it takes a really long time to get there (more often I run out of road before it happens). I can get to 110 ok but that last 10 are like climbing everest. I am also 6'5" and 280lbs which is basically like two normal people riding 2 up on a cb750. I have no idea how many miles are on the bike but she is still strong. If I had to guess I'd say maybe 30K, but I put 20 K on here since I have owned it.quote:
What's a Q-ship? Your Cb will only do 110mph? Is it stock? I'm 6'2" and weigh 210, and tucked down as far as I can, I've had my '75 going 120mph. All it had at the time was aftermarket pipes and clubmans(and some lightening). It also has over 40,000 miles. I don't know, maybe my speedo's off. Jimmy
A q-ship is a Bike or car that looks stock but isn't. It comes from gunships during WWII that would cruise around disguised as merchant ships. I have a few little tweaks to my cb and she runs as good as an early cb750 acceleration wise.
BTW, I also happen to ride kawi triples and I can tell you they are great bikes but are definatly not commuter bikes. Owning them is like owning a brit bike but faster. There is a Guy in upstate NY who can get 120 rwhp out of a pump gas street motor, but a stock frame may not keep up with that.
The best 70's two strokes for daily riding are the suzukis (I really like my T500, but the GTs are actually better), they are dead reliable and still give you that old two stroke feel with a little less vibration (they are rubber mounted).
I have had my bike up to 120, but it takes a really long time to get there (more often I run out of road before it happens). I can get to 110 ok but that last 10 are like climbing everest. I am also 6'5" and 280lbs which is basically like two normal people riding 2 up on a cb750. I have no idea how many miles are on the bike but she is still strong. If I had to guess I'd say maybe 30K, but I put 20 K on here since I have owned it.quote:
What's a Q-ship? Your Cb will only do 110mph? Is it stock? I'm 6'2" and weigh 210, and tucked down as far as I can, I've had my '75 going 120mph. All it had at the time was aftermarket pipes and clubmans(and some lightening). It also has over 40,000 miles. I don't know, maybe my speedo's off. Jimmy
A q-ship is a Bike or car that looks stock but isn't. It comes from gunships during WWII that would cruise around disguised as merchant ships. I have a few little tweaks to my cb and she runs as good as an early cb750 acceleration wise.
BTW, I also happen to ride kawi triples and I can tell you they are great bikes but are definatly not commuter bikes. Owning them is like owning a brit bike but faster. There is a Guy in upstate NY who can get 120 rwhp out of a pump gas street motor, but a stock frame may not keep up with that.
The best 70's two strokes for daily riding are the suzukis (I really like my T500, but the GTs are actually better), they are dead reliable and still give you that old two stroke feel with a little less vibration (they are rubber mounted).
This kid does not even know how to ride a bike he cant even grab 2nd sometimes. And the bigest bike i have ever rode is an Yamaha fj1100 wich i think is a lil slower than a new R6. Every bike i have ever owend i have built. I just want to out run his new motorcycle that daddy bout him with some old bike that i have built. But before i just go and build another motorcycle i just need to know what bike would have the potential of doing this.
kawasaki h2
tex
"dude, my boots feel like they are filled with rain slushies!"
tex
"dude, my boots feel like they are filled with rain slushies!"
I have a hot h1 dragbike that can keep up with a modern sport bike. Then again it is a two stroke, makes close to 90 hp and is close to the 300lbs mark. Oh and it also has a car tire slick on the back.
Seriously, an h2 in an h1 frame with some major lightening mods and a hotted up motor will keep up with newer sport bikes, it is all about getting the power to weight ratio the same. However, an h2 triple will pretty much be unrideable by any novice once you approach the 100hp mark. Also they are not cheap these days, a good condition h2 sells for more than a new r1. The h2 will not keep up with it on the twisties, the chassis is just too antiquated.
You wanna build a new bike basher here are my suggestions:
- Fzr4/6: The fzr400 was made from 1988 to 1990 in this country and is all aluminum. The fzr600 is the same bike but the frame and swinger are steel. the 400 weighs about 340lbs stock, and there have been examples of people getting them under 300lbs wet in street trim. An fzr600 motor is a direct bolt on (except for the airbox which needs to be modded) and will make 90hp with some basic tuning. A yzf600 motor makes over 100 but requires some machining to the case mounts, and an r6 will make 120hp and requires a custom motor spacer. 120 lbs, 300lbs, sounds wicked fast and tons of fun. If you are savy you can build one for around $2500.
- rd350/400 or T500 in a ninja 250 frame. The ninja 250 is small, light, and super confy to ride and handles probably the best of any bike in the kawasaki stable. It is also hella light and has a rear rim size on par with most 70's bikes. Take a two stroke parallel twin engine like and rd350/400 or t500 and put it in there. The bike no longer needs all the liquid cooling accesories and you can drop the weight of the bike into the 200lbs range with some creative weight reduction. Even the stock 40+ hp of a T500 or Rd motor will ahev no problem pushing this little road rocket to warp speed quickly. Keep the bodywork and you may even see 150mph. Another bike you can build for sub $3000.
- H1/H2 in an s3 frame. The s3 triple was by far the best handeling triple made, and stock they were just as fast as their big brother 500s. However that is largely due to the 500s heavy frame. Take the h1 motor and stick it in a lighter frame and you'll have a nice little vintage roadster. Stick an h2 motor in there and you'll have a bike that will leave skidmarks in your shorts everywhere you go. No engine parts are available for the s3 so finding a clean base with a blown motor will not be hard to find, finding an h1 engine is easy enough, but finding an h2 motor these days can be trickey.
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Seriously, an h2 in an h1 frame with some major lightening mods and a hotted up motor will keep up with newer sport bikes, it is all about getting the power to weight ratio the same. However, an h2 triple will pretty much be unrideable by any novice once you approach the 100hp mark. Also they are not cheap these days, a good condition h2 sells for more than a new r1. The h2 will not keep up with it on the twisties, the chassis is just too antiquated.
You wanna build a new bike basher here are my suggestions:
- Fzr4/6: The fzr400 was made from 1988 to 1990 in this country and is all aluminum. The fzr600 is the same bike but the frame and swinger are steel. the 400 weighs about 340lbs stock, and there have been examples of people getting them under 300lbs wet in street trim. An fzr600 motor is a direct bolt on (except for the airbox which needs to be modded) and will make 90hp with some basic tuning. A yzf600 motor makes over 100 but requires some machining to the case mounts, and an r6 will make 120hp and requires a custom motor spacer. 120 lbs, 300lbs, sounds wicked fast and tons of fun. If you are savy you can build one for around $2500.
- rd350/400 or T500 in a ninja 250 frame. The ninja 250 is small, light, and super confy to ride and handles probably the best of any bike in the kawasaki stable. It is also hella light and has a rear rim size on par with most 70's bikes. Take a two stroke parallel twin engine like and rd350/400 or t500 and put it in there. The bike no longer needs all the liquid cooling accesories and you can drop the weight of the bike into the 200lbs range with some creative weight reduction. Even the stock 40+ hp of a T500 or Rd motor will ahev no problem pushing this little road rocket to warp speed quickly. Keep the bodywork and you may even see 150mph. Another bike you can build for sub $3000.
- H1/H2 in an s3 frame. The s3 triple was by far the best handeling triple made, and stock they were just as fast as their big brother 500s. However that is largely due to the 500s heavy frame. Take the h1 motor and stick it in a lighter frame and you'll have a nice little vintage roadster. Stick an h2 motor in there and you'll have a bike that will leave skidmarks in your shorts everywhere you go. No engine parts are available for the s3 so finding a clean base with a blown motor will not be hard to find, finding an h1 engine is easy enough, but finding an h2 motor these days can be trickey.
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